tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post3887340920878159898..comments2023-06-28T05:30:26.997-04:00Comments on Have Projects, Will Travel: Wednesday? Yep.DPUTigerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04972128797520034784noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-64435275841681523582009-02-25T15:19:00.000-05:002009-02-25T15:19:00.000-05:00Following up to my Anonymous post about flagging a...Following up to my Anonymous post about flagging abusive posts in the Bunker. I am MidniteSky on Ravelry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-14348598624734850862009-02-25T15:04:00.000-05:002009-02-25T15:04:00.000-05:00I flagged 2 posts in The Bunker on October 24. Th...I flagged 2 posts in The Bunker on October 24. They both stated that Obama probably had his grandmother offed to get 'sympathy' votes.(recall that she died the week before the election). I can ignore the childish name-calling that went on there. But, this kind of hateful stuff was going over the line. When the moderator finally responded to me, her response was basically "let it blow over". OK. Whatever. I 'spose that might be the kind of cooperation that Casey was dealing with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-32898926545752660792009-02-13T21:55:00.000-05:002009-02-13T21:55:00.000-05:00As a proud LSG member as well as a member of Knitt...As a proud LSG member as well as a member of Knitters for Obama, I am still trying to figure out when and where these groups descended into hatefulness without it being quickly and painfully squashed by our lovely mods. I've seen and heard smackdowns in LSG because one of our members said something rash in the big 6 just because we didn't want it to reflect on us! <BR/><BR/>If your big complaint with our groups is the cussing in LSG, then don't read it. If you're afraid that your kids might see something you disagree with, then don't let them online without monitoring them. <BR/><BR/>But, I've never understood why the party that supposedly stands for smaller government and individual rights has such a vocal contingent that wants to make sure that I don't have those rights and wants their small government to step in to take them from me.Faeyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18252283975458334359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-16018743742602783172009-02-13T18:22:00.000-05:002009-02-13T18:22:00.000-05:00I never agreed with the group. Every time I peeked...I never agreed with the group. Every time I peeked in there, I was hit with a wall of relentless negativity. <BR/><BR/>That is a sad way to live. So much energy expended on negativity and insular petty commentary could be used towards bettering the lives of the less fortunate<BR/><BR/>I am sorry their home group was taken from them, I imagine it must hurt like hell. I am also sorry because instead of their negativity being condensed in one avoidable area, they've now been forced to spread it around and infect other groups. <BR/><BR/>Though I find it sadly amusing that even the other conservative groups are leery of having them. If people who are supposed to be your peers shun you, shouldn't that tell you something important about your behavior?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-51267701680864764192009-02-13T13:48:00.000-05:002009-02-13T13:48:00.000-05:00Just wanted to show you some love for a fabulous b...Just wanted to show you some love for a fabulous blog post.<BR/><BR/>The Bunker was a cesspool on Ravelry. The pro-Obama, anti-Palin sites nowhere near approached its level of xenophobia, racism, bigotry and just plain ignorance. It is true that conservative knitters may have felt a bit dogpiled on those - or even the main six - boards, but that's more due to their blind refusal to cite sources, acknowledge proven facts, or observe historical data than due to their beliefs. They demanded the right to censor others, but when they were asked to censor themselves they whined and cried about how unfairly they are treated. <BR/><BR/>I observed on more than occasion how nasty they were to other Ravelers. Again, when this was pointed out to them, they whined and bitched about the "unfairness."<BR/><BR/>They do have a persecution complex, which is the only reason why I regret Casey took this action; it only adds more fuel to their self-aggrandizing "I'm such a victim" posture.<BR/><BR/>Political discourse is fine; it's what makes for an informed citzenry and a better country. But the Bunker wasn't political discourse. It was set up solely to mock, not only elected officials, but other Ravelers. Just look at the posts on this blog demanding that other groups be shut down, too. What they fail to realize is that the other groups play by the Community Guidelines, and actively moderate themselves.LondonWritinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02189207569706412539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-71741590503453291922009-02-13T12:20:00.000-05:002009-02-13T12:20:00.000-05:00Wow, that's all I can say. I thought Ravelry was f...Wow, that's all I can say. I thought Ravelry was for knitters not political junkies. ALL political groups should be shut down including Obama-rama and Wingnuts. A knitting and crochet community is NOT the place for this type of discourse. There are other environments on the internet to cater groups of all political stripe...ciao:)Rosittahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05722304052321553692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-73241753666947392282009-02-12T20:07:00.000-05:002009-02-12T20:07:00.000-05:00Boy, am I ever glad it was a crazy day at work and...Boy, am I ever glad it was a crazy day at work and I couldn't log on to Ravelry. What a to-do I missed!Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05434256661615289001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-33687854738300265082009-02-12T19:50:00.000-05:002009-02-12T19:50:00.000-05:00Love (1) here too. I didn't read the group- I've ...Love (1) here too. I didn't read the group- I've stayed away from most of them. I read a facebook post from one of the mods who was very angry at the closing of the group. The extreme nature of those words were enough for me to be glad that it was shut down. Whether the "other side" is as guilty or not is irrelevant. Less electronic hate = less electronic hate. The Rav gang isn't in the business of fostering hate. I'm glad you wrote this post.sophannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571217197138831872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-79146795703919918342009-02-12T19:00:00.000-05:002009-02-12T19:00:00.000-05:00Just leaving a Love(1) <3Just leaving a Love(1) <3Sayyidahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05271773052015715817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-37291941249672609262009-02-12T18:41:00.000-05:002009-02-12T18:41:00.000-05:00Another Pittsburgher here, hello neighbor and than...Another Pittsburgher here, hello neighbor and thank you for a wonderful post. It makes me sad to see the awesomeness that is Ravelry besmirched by such ugliness. Hopefully reason will prevail and we can all go on with our lives. I wish the same for those disillusioned by what happened and hope they can find healing and light in their hearts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09657298304729201156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-41387309346317120182009-02-12T18:07:00.000-05:002009-02-12T18:07:00.000-05:00What a great post. It's been so frustrating for me...What a great post. It's been so frustrating for me to see the "us versus them" mentality that is prevalent in so many political or heated discussions today. The few times I could stand to read the Bunker, that type of thinking was prevalent, and it seemed quickly to turn into not just an "us versus them" mentality but veered into a hatred of opposing viewpoints. People of all political persuasions do this, but to have an entire group that just feeds off of each other and immediately assumes that everything is an attack creates a feeling of negativity that echoed throughout many of the other groups.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04516239585086564083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-62679652761626391842009-02-12T18:01:00.000-05:002009-02-12T18:01:00.000-05:00Thank you for this post; I've found that group's a...Thank you for this post; I've found that group's attitude to be very distressing. I'm sorry such action had to be taken against them, but on the other hand, I'm relieved.<BR/><BR/>One of the people I love most in the world usually votes very differently than I do; sometimes we discuss, and sometimes, we just agree that we aren't going to see eye to eye on some things. Sometimes, we agree completely. It's how life goes.<BR/><BR/>I wasn't baffled by this group, because I do know people who are that afraid of anything that's not exactly like them, but I was saddened.Katt13https://www.blogger.com/profile/01753487364518673609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-31427396792980392292009-02-12T17:47:00.000-05:002009-02-12T17:47:00.000-05:00Thank you for speaking up and out.Thank you for speaking up and out.Terri H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10264072529085864513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-40724148340314319392009-02-12T17:43:00.000-05:002009-02-12T17:43:00.000-05:00The only thing I would like to ask you is if you h...The only thing I would like to ask you is if you have ever read any of the liberal groups on Rav, such as Obama-rama or the Wingnuts group. If you have not, please do so, and then come back and tell your readers about them. Check some of the archived threads. There you will find suggestions on how to cause physical harm to Sarah Palin, George Bush, and other Republican. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-90081537220762930112009-02-12T17:00:00.000-05:002009-02-12T17:00:00.000-05:00DPUTiger, I just wanted to add for some of your re...DPUTiger, I just wanted to add for some of your readers that this is not my name on Ravelry and to please leave the people who call themselves 'Mart' there alone. kthaxbai.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-52651504456645293432009-02-12T16:47:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:47:00.000-05:00Thank you for an excellent post. It's been a roug...Thank you for an excellent post. It's been a rough couple of days, and I'm sure TPTB at Ravelry would love to put it behind them.<BR/><BR/>I've just been lurking on the threads, horrified by what I was witnessing.ZantiMissKnithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18039047551905267768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-50287040063882058092009-02-12T16:46:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:46:00.000-05:00Bennalaya: Where's the love(1) button on Blogger c...Bennalaya: Where's the love(1) button on Blogger comments?Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005333940491853005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-57649452922154204332009-02-12T16:41:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:41:00.000-05:00I forgot to add, this blog entry is purely brillia...I forgot to add, this blog entry is purely brilliant. While Bunkerites are locking their comments and deleting anything that isn't a "three cheers for calling Casey a nazi!" comment, you have not only exposed the Bunker for the ugliness that it is, but also allowed all to comment. <BR/><BR/>You're very brave and I appreciate that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-51226847255034150342009-02-12T16:39:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:39:00.000-05:00Well said! And the recent archived post in the Big...Well said! And the recent archived post in the Big 6, combined with the trollish behavior on the comments page to that recent article about Ravlery, show how bitter and nasty they were.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and please do keep flagging, it's giving you all loads of credibility. ;)iKniterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13907905260018083672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-47443730476332096032009-02-12T16:37:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:37:00.000-05:00Beautiful knitting and thank you for posting this!...Beautiful knitting and thank you for posting this! While I feel sorry for the knitters who had their "safe haven" shut down, I was really happy it was. Any safe haven that endangers others with the type of racism, homophobia, able-ism, and intolerance exhibited in the Bunker is only only safe for a select few. Allowing that kind of viewpoint to fester, seemingly unchecked, just created animosity on Ravelry. I hope the Bunker members can find other places on Ravelry where they can share and learn along with the rest of us. Maybe if they actually spent some time in groups like LSG, rather than just spreading unsubstantiated rumors, they would see what a loving place it really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-40502416065074044652009-02-12T16:27:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:27:00.000-05:00Excellent post! I really appreciate your insightfu...Excellent post! I really appreciate your insightful commentary. I was thrilled to see TPTB shut the group down because their hatred upset me so much.<BR/><BR/>Their behavior after being shut down demonstrates that TPTB acted correctly.KnittingReaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08808217677224015173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-42154988635349620922009-02-12T16:26:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:26:00.000-05:00I have seventeen screen shots saved to my computer...I have seventeen screen shots saved to my computer that show racist comments, threats of shooting people (seriously, some jokes aren't funny), and just general asshattery. You Bunker mods are certainly welcome to continue lying all over the internet that "you never knew you were a problem". MizDi acknowledged it in a post just last week that Casey was putting the heat on the mods. <BR/><BR/>So, yeah, from what I've heard the mods were not willing to play nice. I didn't say I had documentation that you said, specifically, "cram the rules up your ass". Obviously Casey would not divulge what sort of private discussions took place between the Bunker mods and TPTB, and it's none of my business. <BR/><BR/>I'm just not buying that the mods did everything in their power to foster a positive environment in that group. It was a hotbed of negativity and mean-spiritedness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-73143849555984818242009-02-12T16:06:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:06:00.000-05:00I, too, have watched the behavior of members in th...I, too, have watched the behavior of members in the group with absolute revulsion. I'm thrilled that the group is gone, and it has <B>nothing</B> to do with politics. I'm in neither party - theirs or their so-hated enemies, the "libturds." It reminded me of people who've gone "nose-deaf," they spent so much time in there that they couldn't smell the BS. I'm sure there are perfectly wonderful people in the group, but by participating in some of the crap that went on there... I can't tell anymore. <BR/><BR/>When you see the mods in a group piling on to a mess that should be, oh, moderated, anything resembling respect goes straight out the window.<BR/><BR/>And, please, for God's sake, people, "freedom of speach" and "censorship" are NOT applicable here. <BR/><BR/>This might interest some folks:<BR/><A HREF="http://shackpics.com/files/noosecommentredacted_jf5tih4fh4pqy1edqqy5.jpg" REL="nofollow">screenshot of noose comment</A> (identifying characteristics were redacted, I'm guessing to protect the guilty).Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005333940491853005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-79572729561248480072009-02-12T15:46:00.000-05:002009-02-12T15:46:00.000-05:00Way to go!! I love your post and I commend you for...Way to go!! I love your post and I commend you for standing by your convictions. I wasn't able to go over to the Bunker very often (and how apt that name was!) because it made my blood boil. Other groups have had problems and their moderators have worked with the Powers That Be to resolve them. These hate-filled so-called moderators just stirred the pot even more. <BR/>I'm going to show Casey, Jess, and Mary-Heather as much love as I can, and I'm also going to donate to the funds. <BR/>By the way, I have two grandsons who are very much the same racial mix as President Obama. We are thrilled and delighted to claim him as our POTUS!mehitabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07855340553296575495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33126338.post-72605681822606731292009-02-12T14:01:00.000-05:002009-02-12T14:01:00.000-05:00Jane Doe: I have not edited one piece of punctuati...<B>Jane Doe:</B> I have not edited one piece of punctuation from the original post, nor will I. Please don't confuse my original blog post with information presented by those who have commented.<BR/><BR/>And please notice that I haven't deleted any of the comments either. Even from those who don't have enough courage in their convictions to back up their opinions with a name and/or contact information.DPUTigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972128797520034784noreply@blogger.com